On the My Top Tier Business sales page, its creator Matt Lloyd makes bold claims about how effective his product is. He’s so confident that you’ll be earning money in 30 days that he backs it up with a $500 guarantee. In this review, I’ll share with you why the guarantee is actually a load of crap, and I’ll explain how the marketing on the sales pages is full of inaccurate claims. In fact, even if you just want to test out the My Top Tier Business training videos for his 21-step system, you’ll have to spend thousands of dollars.
Extremely Dishonest Marketing
The My Top Tier Business sales page is very clear about Matt Lloyd’s “NO-RISK Guarantee,” and this is why internet marketing newbies get sucked into buying his product. Basically, Matt Lloyd claims that all you need to do is test out his 21-step system, and if you don’t make money, he’ll give you $500. Those are his exact words, as you can read for yourself on his sales page.
The sales video is even clearer: Matt Lloyd emphasizes many times—not just once—that you won’t need to pay any more money. So I decided to get My Top Tier Business a try, and I paid $49 to check out some of the training videos. Then after just one week, without any notice whatsoever, I was told that in order to continue watching the videos I’d have to pay a $1,997 licensing fee. I was very angry, since the sales page didn’t say anything about paying this massive fee just to finish the videos.
When I tried to watch one of the later training videos, my access was blocked, even though I already paid for the product. Now I can’t watch any video after the first several, and in order to continue with the training, the support team is insisting that I pay two thousand dollars! I’ve been in internet marketing for years, and I can’t think of a single time that I saw such dishonest marketing. Think about it, what use is a $500 guarantee when you have to pay $2,000 just to test it out?
Paying to be an Affiliate
At this point you’re probably asking yourself, how can Matt Lloyd possibly justify this $1,997 upsell? It’s presented as a “licensing fee” which is just fancy language for paying two thousand dollars in order to be an affiliate. Any time that an affiliate is forced to pay money in order to receive sales commissions, it is a major red flag.
Legitimate products don’t need to charge affiliates money to sell their products, and that’s why you’ll never see an affiliate for an Amazon or Clickbank product being charged money. But that doesn’t stop Matt Lloyd from asking for thousands of dollars just to sell his products to other people.
Even worse, you’re still left completely in the dark at this point. Matt Lloyd expects you to pay $2,000 in order to become an affiliate for a product that you haven’t even seen yet. In my opinion, that’s simply crazy—how on earth could anyone spend so much money without first seeing the quality of the product? Why would you even pay money to be an affiliate in the first place?
Unethical Sales Commissions
Even if you’re willing to fork over the $2,000 (which I think is very foolish), you should also be asking yourself whether this is a legitimate way of earning money online. Basically, you’re being asked to vouch for a product when you don’t even know if it’s valuable information or complete garbage.
Is that how you want to make a living, by selling people a product that you’re not even familiar with? Personally, I am only comfortable promoting a product if I know that it’s actually helping people make money, and with Matt Lloyd’s product I have no way of knowing if this is true. All I can see is the titles of the steps, but without watching the actual videos, there’s no way of knowing if this system is actually worthwhile.
Matt Lloyd is hoping that you feel okay going along with his plan as long as you’re making high commissions. But as someone who’s making an honest living from internet marketing, I can’t in good conscience promote this program until I know it’s legitimate. Unfortunately, with My Top Tier Business, there’s simply no way of knowing until you invest a massive amount of money.
Conclusion: Don’t Fall For It
It should be obvious by now that I think you should stay far away from My Top Tier Business. The sales page is extremely dishonest when it says you’ll only have to pay $49—the truth is you’ll have to pay over $2,000. Moreover, you should be extremely skeptical any time that you are paying in order to be an affiliate, especially if you’re not even allowed to see the product until you fork over the money. Lastly, as an internet marketer I only want to earn money when I am actually helping people with honest information, and I won’t sell myself out just to get a high commission from Matt Lloyd.
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Were you also caught off guard with the $1,997 fee that came out of the blue? Did you get sucked into paying the initial $49 for My Top Tier Business, or did you read this review just in time? Let the community know how this review helped you by sharing a comment below!
It looks like a pyramid scheme to me. I have been caught by things like this in the past … Empower being the latest one. This time I decided to research before investing anything into it. I am glad I did. Thanks for the video and info page.
No problem at all, Caleb. I agree that there are some similarities, but if they were a pyramid scheme legally speaking, I’m sure they’d have been shut down long ago. I definitely don’t believe in their sales tactics or business model either way, personally.
If I can ever help you with anything as you continue pursuing internet marketing, don’t hesitate to reach out! Happy to help however I can.
please undo my confusion…..will I have to pay an additional $1997 after completing just a few steps on the 21 day MTTB program or not?…thanks in advance for your response>>
Apparently you aren’t completely blocked, as many members have pointed out to me since writing this review. You are definitely blocked as I show in this review with the screenshots, but you can contact your “coach” and have a chat with them to unlock the remaining steps without paying $1997 for a MOBE license. When I encountered this block while reviewing the course, the only option I was aware of was paying $1997 (which is what the system prompts you to do) to access the rest of the steps.
Hi Freddy
Its really confusing..i spent lots of money for ‘make money online’ but as off today i didn’t make any single penny! every body f**ked up. I joined empower network, now MOBE…
its really frustating …
Is there really possible to make money online!!!!!
Oh My GOD! today i paid them 49$…wait a mininute let me make refund request, did they refund? Thanks for nice review. I don’t hv any idea they or they don’t give any infm about 1997$ .. f**ked up ! …i tought lot a bit…sounds like scams.!
Thanks for your review man.
I only paid the $49 just this morning and completly regret it. Do you know to I can cancel my subscription and get my money back??????? I’m 19 and feel like I really screwed up with my life right now.
Hey Brian – you should be able to write their support department and request a refund without issue. If they refuse, threaten to contact your credit card company and have the fees charged back, as well as reporting them to the better business bureau. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, but that’s your best bet.
I want to thank all of you. I’ve only paid the $47. Started step one and decided to check this out. I will not be continuing.
Very glad you found it helpful, Christine. If I can help you with anything else down the road, please don’t hesitate to reach out. I’m happy to help any way that I can.
Mr. Timothy,
there is a simple rule in affiliate marketing.
IF U WANT TO EARN Commission U HAVE TO HAVE THOSE PRODUCTS.
IF U BUY $49 THEN UR PAYOUT WILL BE IN THAT SCALE
IF U BUY $2000 U WILL BE EARNING $1000
IF U BUY $5000 U WILL BE EARNING $$3000
IF U BUY $15000 U WILL BE EARNING $8000 OR don’t know exec figure.
cheers
And all the while, you’re benefitting financially from other people charging up their credit cards or clearing out a huge chunk of their savings. The vast majority of these people will never see their money back, and they’ll have sold off possession, gone into 25% APR debt, taken out car title loans, or sacrificed their children’s college fund just so that you could earn your commission. Frankly, the world would be a better place without people so willing to throw another human being under the bus for their own financial gain.
Just finished Step 6 from MTTB/MOBE and told my “coach” I was out.
Upset with myself for not realizing sooner but did wake up when they wanted $297 for license and 1,997 for the package. Even more infuriating was the payment I sent first they supposedly could not get and blamed my bank. A second payment was gotten right away and then I discover the first is gone too. Funny my coach directed me to Youtube to get a book MTTB recommends and I see your review keep up the good work I wish I saw you before trying MTTB/MOBE
I only wish I could have helped sooner, Bill! I don’t know if you’ve requested a refund yet but, if you do and they refuse it, your bank/credit card company will likely issue one on the vendor’s behalf. Sorry you’re having this experience and don’t hesitate to reach out to me directly if I can help you with anything in the future!
I can only say this about Matt Llyod. It looks like he is running an illegal pyramid scheme!
Hi Ian,
Firstly, I am on your side – so if I say anything that seems contrary please forgive me.
Secondly I am in MTTB/MOBE and before I joined I saw part of your review on YouTube and wrote you off as bitter, especially when I learned you actually rate Wealthy Affiliate as your #1 pick.
I have chosen to join MOBE in spite of your good advice and worse yet I did pay the $1997. I can’t make any excuse for doing something stupid but if anyone knows anything about getting in a bad relationship is that you always try to save it or recover your losses before cutting loose and losing everything.
Matt Loyd does use shady tactics, I would not be upset if he told me $1997 upfront – that is what hightrafficacademy does – they tell you it is $1997 upfront and you see hours their training being offered free on YouTube and it is good stuff (I dont know why you have not done a review of it). But Mat uses pure trickery, he promises you a 21 step training for $49 and says it will allow you to make $1000, $3000 and $5000 commissions with this, then when you actually pay he pops up and offers you a 1 time offer to make $10,000 commissions for just an upgrade to MTTB plus that costs $297. MTTB plus is just a fancy way of selling you MOBE Licence Kit that cost $297 (and no it does not allow you to make $10,000 commissions).
IAN you did the review but you really did not give the full facts. The $49 does allow you to make commissions but not the $1000, $3000 and $5000. You see you get set commissions of 50% depending on the product level that you are at – so at $49 product level you get $25 for each sale of that product that comes from you — forget about the $297 MTTB plus, that is a product but not a MOBE product level — the next product level is $1997 so at that level for each of the $1997 sales you get $1000. Mat is so generous that for each product sale 100% of it is distributed to affiliates — I would have to spend more time to explain but believe me the boss gets 0% — yes, that is another BS alert but you can go on YouTube the MOBE distributions and you will see this (how can the boss make no money??).
As for the post from real MTTB/Mobe members, yes, I saw the pissing contest between you and Kevin.
I can’t say Kevin is right or wrong but I will like to see you get someone that has passed Step6 or Video6 (of the 21steps/videos) that only paid $49. If such a person exists then that person will be getting a watered down product because they bring you to step 6 then pretty much tell you that you need to pay the $1997 to move on with a “License Rights” trainer so you can start making money. Without the license rights trainer you only get to make $25 commissions (they will tell you this but they don’t advertise it and I doubt it exist).
I am already in and I plan to continue as I am too far in. If I will be selling a $1997 “product” to someone upfront then I think I will be making honest bread, if I will be selling a $1997 product for $49 then asking for the $1997 then it is clearly dishonest. And yes, you don’t see what you are getting for $1997. I can only hope it will work out. If Mat has all those success then all he has to do is come clean – yes the success is real, no you can’t get $1000, 3000 and 5000 for $49; no you can’t get $10000 for $297 …. yes you can make $1000 and up for $1997. The $3000 and $5000 commissions may also be possible but not at a $1997 level – just multiply by 2 and you will know what level, and they are honest enough to tell you “there are always up sells” (BTW, unlike that Kevin guy, I can tell you I have not made anything, maybe when I complete).
As for you IAN – your review is incomplete. I think you are an honest guy. Please do a next YouTube video of this and please do one of hightrafficacademy before I do something stupid (I will listen this time).
Hey John, thanks for the highly detailed comment. I don’t agree with your decision to put someone else in the same position to recover their money trying to sell MTTB (to me this just continues a vicious cycle) but I understand that you feel financially committed. Regarding HTA, I haven’t reviewed the product directly but wouldn’t trust the product publisher, Vick Strizheus (review of him and his history in this industry here), if my life depended on it.
Best of luck on recovering your money with MTTB and any other internet venture you set out on, John.
Every review I’ve read or seen on YouTube concerning this company said you pay only 49.00 I paid 97.00. ? I’m currently at step 6 wanting to go further. Don’t uhh have the 1997 right now. But I still want to go on in MTTB.
The price has gone up since I conducted my review.
I had a weak moment and purchased this yesturday, due to talk to my coach tommorow and thought i’d just check out to see if this too good to be true offer was just that – instincts right again- thanks for this video – I would have been mighty pissed off if i’d spent all that time watching the videos to find theres a $1997 fee.
No problem at all, Helen! I’m really happy that you found it helpful. Thanks for taking a few seconds to share your experiences with the rest of the community.
What do they actually sell??? I seen many youtube videos to include no more bull @#$$, Frankly I still do not understand what they are selling……
Can you explain Ian???
Thank you
They’re selling you training on how to promote their product and the “privilege” of being one of the people that can promote their product.
Wow. You guys know a lot about these things. Smart asses 🙂
But thanks for this information it helps a lot. (In the sense that I have a lot to learn) 🙂
correction of the typo:
Sorry there was a typo in that paragraph:
You will not earn $10,000s on the Internet if DO NOT you have several systems in place for yourself – email marketing, a real converting sales funnel process and a highly effective phone (!) follow up to sell higher priced products to your customers.
Dear Ian!
While I respect yourself a lot and your reviews on your websites are outstanding, I have to note several things about this review.
I have to disclose that I personally have indeed paid happily the $1997 license fee, but I would like to step back for a moment and correct a few things that you have pointed out in your review.
First of all – if you join Matt Lloyds 21 step program you are getting assigned a personal coach which guides you through the 21 steps, and the program itself does NOT allow you to access STEP 7 for example before you have not completed STEP 1, 2, 3… and so on.
The “denied” screens that you are showing are actually BEING LIFTED as you move along – and ask your coach to unlock the steps for you.
AND – drumroll please! – they UNLOCK ALL 21 STEPS for you, even if you DO NOT PAY any other license fees. Yes, you read that correctly – it is very easy to complete all the 21 steps without paying anything else than the initial $49 fee.
You might have dealt with a coach that was new to the system, but the official statement of Matt Lloyd and his support team is that if you do not want to buy yourself license rights for $1997 – you can continue the 21 step program without it.
Also: Matt Lloyd has indeed a free affiliate program if you want to promote his products without a license you receive 50% affiliate commissions on selected products (but you are not getting paid on any back-end products!), where when you actually have a paid license you get paid 90% and get paid on all back-end-products with high commission products.
When you are following the 21 steps – step by step and really watch the videos and digest the offered material you will actually see real value in the marketing material presented – it is not just some fluff.
The value of $49 for the 21 steps should been already obvious if you worked through the 6 first steps (and I mean really reading the 80+ plus PDF workbook and watched several hours of training videos and valuable marketing insights right there.)
I can’t relate that you are labeling everything here as unethical – since you do not even know what those high sales commissions are for! I of course can completely understand that you were frustrated if you were not allowed to go past step 6 – EVEN if (if you did?) complete the other steps before in the program and communicated that you do not want to pay another fee before completing the program.
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO CONTACT THEIR SUPPORT TICKET SYSTEM? You get quite fast and reliable answers from them.
You can two forms of contact: 1. Your personal coach – 2. The Customer support ticket team.
Hope this helps!
PS: I have to tell you that PAYING to be an affiliate marketer is NOT ALWAYS A BAD THING – there are many closed deals in the business world where people are NOT allowed to promote offers until they have a license to do so.
Some companies require you to actually own a product before you can sell it. Some companies ask a license fee in order for you to use their networks. That itself has no value in any determination if a business is legit or not.
In fact if you are promoting “free affiliate marketing programs” it is not a guarantee that a company is legit, isn’t it. And if you are promoting a “low level entry business” that everybody just can join – let’s face it: you have a lot of competition.
Would you be rather in affiliate program along with 100.000 affiliates or with a company that has less than 2,000 affiliates – in which of them is the chance actually better to make good profit (assuming both offers convert the same and offer the same value!)?
Hey Kevin! Thanks for taking the time to share such detailed feedback. I’m curious to know what you received for $1997 besides the resell rights to make large commissions when you get someone else to buy into the program. Besides the unethical selling practices (I know you dispute how unethical they are based on the fact that you can contact your coach and receive the workaround mentioned, I don’t believe presenting it the way it’s sold on the sales page is at all ethical even if that’s the case – not to mention how inconvenient it is to have to wait on your coach if you want to get going and continue working through the system at a fast pace) I am very, very against programs that sell expensive products that only present value in the form of being able to earn large commissions off of other people that buy the same expensive product. This is how Empower Network, Neucopia, and many other MLMs in this industry operate, and I can show people where to get significantly better internet marketing training for $47 instead of having the pay $2,000 essentially for resell rights.
Again I appreciate your lengthy and thoughtful response, but I’m more interested to know how the $1997 license changed your life or enhanced your ability to build a business aside from the fact that it qualified you to make large commissions off of others buying the same product. I hope to hear from you soon!
Ian. This is my last response to you, ok. I have no intention to create a lenghty discussion nor am I interested to “defend” Matt Lloyd. (Plus I am not a company representative.) In fact, I could care less what people in general think about MTTB and Matt, because honestly the less people get into the program the better for the few like me who work it to get the financial rewards others will never see.
I think you pretty much made your mind up already and my orignal post was not to “change your mind”, but to give you a few pointers that you have overlooked. BTW: I have not use much detail about my person and I really want to stay anonymous, but I made way over $150,000 in affiliate commissions in affiliate marketing before and was doing work in Network Marketing before (but I am not a big fan of most of those – especially people behaving that they have joined a religious cult they belong to – hence: I am not religiously attrached to Matt Lloyd and his company either!).
The problem with most people not having success or that something is not “changing people’s lives” is because of the combination of lack of knowledge and lack of taking consistent action into a system – and actually OWNING a system instead just being a part of system. The most important value is that people get REAL WORKING EDUCATION AND KNOWHOW that they can use to grow ANY busines that they like – not know how just to promote the MMTB System.
I highly urge people to the MJ De Marcos Book “The Fastlane Millionaire” – even after reading this book most people will not get it, but it will show you why most people fail with Internet Marketing. People fail even in programs that work and product results because they never fully apply it.
And again, I am not here to proof that you are wrong and I am right.
But I know one thing for sure:
That you have not read all the coaching material and the material presented what you do get when you pay the $1997 license fee in order to be part of the MTTB Program.
My question really is did you really watch all those HOURS of videos and did you do the worksheets presented in those 6 steps? Even I am for over 10 years in Internet Marketing myself I found a great value in the content presented – well more worth than $49 paying, even if someone did not complete all 21 steps at that point.
You obviously have NOT understood what you are getting there and you obviously have not seen the value of getting a FRANCHISE business.
First of all, this is not just an “affiliate” program. While there is a free affiliate program open to the public without any fees where you get paid 50% and nothing else. With buying the license for $1997 you get 90% of commissions and a deep end of high-profit ticket sales items – and you get a professional sales team on the phone that closes sales for you, that is only part of what you get.
You get also access to several coaching products that contain many hours of video coaching, workbooks and highly valuable training material that just can’t be bought for just a few hundred dollars. Those courses will take you several weeks to take and digest with no-fluff marekting advice like the “My Email Marketing Empire” coaching course (8 modules + bonuses) on how to effectively use email marketing to build YOUR OWN (!) profitable income, “How To Build A Funded Proposal” coaching course (8 modules + bonuses), “Affiliate Bonus Domination” coaching course (7 modules + bonuses) on how to dominate affiliate launches and be more successful with affiliate marketing, “The OPT Formula” (Hot To Outsource Correctly – 7 modules plus bonuses) on how to focus on your most important business activities yourself and why and how to exactly outsource the rest , and access to the “Inner Circle” course (8+ modules on Copy Writing, Productivity, Sales Funnel, Affiliate Marketing, Coaching, Lead Generation, Sales Training and Interviews) – each of those courses itself is worth at least $150-$350 themselves.
Also included are weekly training calls, 3 live sessions with a personal traffic coach to guide you through your 30 days coaching program.
I do not know how you did overlook all those when talking to the coach that guided you to the 21 or rather only the first 6 steps of MTTB.
Again, it is clear to me that you did not see the value in the system, you made that clear.
BUT one thing I have to say in conclusion:
Just because a company asks for a license fee in order for you to participate in their business program (be it a network marketing company or be it a license to be able to sell a product online),
that alone does not mean anything about a company.
You said you can show people where to get “significantly better Internet Marketing” for $47 instand paying $2000 – go help themselves. You get what you are paying for. While there are a few interesting products out there that charge $47, most of those small priced “coaching” comes from people who are broke and have NOT made millions and are worthless to be a coach.
Really, who do people kid themselves?
While of course it is not a guarantee that if you pay $1000’s in dollars for coaching and for a business-in-a-box that someone will succeeed – it is obvious that it qualifies people from the “I want it all free” or I want it all “for almost nothing”.
People think just because it is on the Internet, they do not need to pay anything. Newsflash: I sell one software on the internet and of course after a while some “cracking software” website is out there to publish a software key to use my software for “free”. You know this is pathetic: they might be able to crack and copy the software, but they are not able to steal and take away the coaching that I give people along when they buy the software from me.
I see a lot of review websites like yours – and while you have SOME value in helping people to avoid obvious scams, your review websites often force a very unhealthy mindset: that everything must be for free – and that everything must be accesible for “everbody”.
NewsFlash: Big Deals and High Income Opportunities are NOT for the masses, and Internet Marketing and Affiliate Marketing is NOT for everybody. If you want to make a few thousands of dollars only every month, sure, go ahead and do some affiliate marketing like a hobby and put in “a few hours a week” to do that.
In order to make $20,000+ per month (as a start, not as the “end goal”) you need to have systems and tools and products in place that will enable to make you that kind of money.
A $47 Internet Marketing course will NOT tell you that.
You asked me “how MTTB and Matt Llody” changed my life and enhanced my abilty to build a business by the way. You are assuming by that that my life actually NEEDED change. Buying MTTB and getting a license for Matts program and network enabled me to add another nice income stream to what I am already doing and actually gave me another “multiplier” that creates a leveraged income stream.
The value in his system is that it is an automated distribution tool that I can use and plug into what I am already doing. It has immense value with the marketing psychology behind the system and the possibilities for worldwide expansion.
I have not even mentioned the additional levels of the Master Mind groups and the live events all around the world and additional network possiblities plus meeting VIP marketing experts such as Michael Oliver from naturalselling.com (which by the way is the coach of the professsional sales team behind the MTTB sales team).
In conclusion: Ian – I certainly do not plan to spend hours on commenting back and forth with you here on your otherwise valuable review website – you do not see the value in the MTTB training and the marketing machine that Matt Lloyd build and what is stands for. I got and understand that.
But you missed out most of what the programs offers due to you “being upset” that you had to pay $2000 in order to be allowed to get into a program.
If you buy real working Internet businesses (look at flippa.com!)
they often just start at $10,000+ – so the $2000 is nothing in comparision what you will get in value.
People only tend to want something for almost nothing.
You will not earn $10,000s on the Internet if you have several systems in place for yourself – email marketing, a real converting sales funnel process and a highly effective phone (!) follow up to sell higher priced products to your customers.
Of course you can go and build all that yourself, but it will certainly cost you more than $2,000 if you do all of that yourself right from scratch!
P.S: Really – go read “The Fastlane Millionaire” by MJ De Marco!
P.P.S: I will not respond to your next reply to this comment, I will certainly read it, but this is my final response to you. I wish you good luck with your business and your review site!
Hey Kevin, thank you for taking the time to put together another thoughtful comment. Trust me when I say I don’t want to get into a “comment war” anymore than you do, but I greatly respect when someone takes the time to express such a highly detailed opinion as you’ve done here (in what I believe was a very respectful manner as well) so I want to clarify a couple of things as well, completely understanding that you will not respond and I understand why. By the way, I have “The Millionaire Fastlane” by MJ DeMarco on my bookshelf here in my home office as well and highly, highly recommend it to anyone that might be reading this comment string. It’s one of the best $15 investments I think an entrepreneur can make in themselves.
You are also correct that I have not seen the material I would get access to in Matt Lloyd’s My Top Tier Business for $2,000, but I do know what I’ve been given access to for $47 a month with another program and $10-$20 on a book here and there for things like email marketing, copywriting, conversion optimization, PPC, etc.. In grand total I think someone could spend $500 and have a year’s worth of business expenses paid up, get incredible training that is far more than enough to get their internet business off of the ground with some time and hard work, and put the remaining $1500 toward whatever else they’d like, whether it be business related or catching up on personal bills. I can guarantee if someone asked MJ DeMarco if they should pay $2,000 for internet marketing training his response would be, “Hell no! Go buy $150-$200 in books and you’ll be much better off.” Possibly even more colorful than that.
I understand that MTTB has a team that does most of the selling for you if you pay for the MOBE license, but whenever I review products how much money that I can make by promoting it is not of interest to me. My sole interest is how likely students are to succeed once they sign up. I’ve reviewed programs that are up-front and honest about everything on their sales page (something that I think MTTB lacks, as you know from my review and previous reply) and I think they’re just as likely to succeed with that training as they are if they spent $2,000+ for MTTB. I could make a great deal of money promoting the product, but I think my followers would be spending a great deal of money and very few of them would recover their investment. If they sign up for another program that’s <$50 a month where I think they're just as likely to succeed, if they still give up or fail at least they have a much smaller hole in their bank account.
I can definitely see your angle as well, and I think it just comes down to a difference of opinion. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the thoughtfulness and respectful approach you displayed in your comments, and I hope you feel that I've been equally respectful. If there's ever anything I can do to help you with your already successful business, I'm happy to help any way that I can and I wish you continued success. Thank you for contributing a perspective from the other side to the community here for followers to weigh and digest before making a decision.
Now Ian I read the reviews that you and Kevin have typed one another and it was very interesting to read. I was truly thinking about joining MTTB. I truly believe that if you want someone to become an affiliate of a business that you brought about. Then atleast be respectful enough to explain the details about payout under the 49.00 entry fee and that the products that comes under that plan is not 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000 payout. That this is only available if you upgrade: 1st upgrade: cost- 1997.00 2nd 8000.00 3rd 14000.00. This is what puzzling me, neither one of you ever mention the 2nd and 3rd upgrade prices, which you need in order to get the high end products and payout. Now my final opinion about this; IF you can still go through the 21 steps without paying for the other 15 steps and still make money on the entry level with the support team to help and people to sell whatever you have access to for the entry level, then it would be worth it and you would be able save money and let it pay for your upgrade.
I don’t believe the support team is there to help you sell the $49 product so much. The $49 product is what triggers the support team to start calling on your customer and trying to sell them higher priced packages, but I don’t believe they assist much with the initial $49 sale. That’s 100% up to the affiliate to close that sale.
Hey Ian,
What review you put in YT and your website is OK. But it is all about choice. If I have money and I want to buy Rolex. Its all about life style. I could buy a cheap cloth from here in UK from PRIMARK like £5 to £10 the same cloths I could buy from HARODS about £200 or more. Its all about your choice. NOW if MOBE is selling any product whether it has any value or not, what is my concern MONEY. I want to be a rich. I don’t want to fukin rule or don’t wana be an honest. if you have money you will be the king. Every single one give you love, sex and whatever you need.
if you pay MOBE $1997 one time, and in return if you sale about 5 , you will have $1000 x 5 = $5000
Now you tell me. if you want to earn with wealthy affiliate then go and earn only about $19 to $47.
R u gonna be rich with that money? its a BIG NO answer.
what is your problem in life money or something else. if money then MOBE something else…….? u know the answer.
I even not in mobe or any other affiliate but I have been researching. soon will join mobe not for MATT LLOYD OR products BUT for MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
SORRY IF I AM TOO HARD ON U.
CHEERS
If you want to sacrifice your morals for money, that’s your choice. Simply not something we see eye-to-eye on, and I won’t send people into a different, extremely expensive product just because it pays me better.
Hi Ian, I appreciate your kind and balanced handling of all the folks here. Where I disagree with you is you seem to think there is no value in MOBE other than the ability to sell another “sucker” the right to buy into the system too, which in essence feels like a pyramid scheme.
I think what you might be missing is that the training is actually very, very good! Even the $49 training has been superb – and if you factor in that you get a copy of the Millionaire Mind by T. Harv Ecker, as well as a copy of Limitless, as well as perhaps hours of training plus a personal coach, it’s not so crazy to see this is high, high value.
Yes, the 21-steps are a clever sales funnel for the supposed “student” – the students ARE the customers – but I think anyone with half a brain can see this coming.
The bottom line is, the training provided is quite excellent value for the money to me so far. I am not getting “air” and right to sell air to another person, which agreed would be selling my soul. I’m getting high quality business training along with a system I can also promote to sell to others if I choose. I can also use the training to promote other products, and in fact am already doing that anyway.
Plus – as mentioned – you get the unheard-of ability to make ALL sales on the back end of products you license. I think that’s a HUGE value for the money – unlike any other affiliate program I’ve heard of! I mean, seriously – they track all sales to people you refer, for life. That’s beyond ridiculous and has high, high value.
This program is NOT a “get-rich-quick” scheme – and to think otherwise is foolish. While one CAN make a lot of money quickly, Matt is quite up-front that most people don’t follow through whatsoever. It’s all over his training materials. And while one might discount it, the guy has a lot of heart and is quite motivational in his trainings, and in his book. Actually he kicks your butt and says if you aren’t willing to do anything to make things happen, you definitely should not get involved.
Another way to think about this – would someone expect to make money if they invested in a McDonald’s franchise, or a Subway franchise – and then did absolutely nothing? It’s worth noting that most people are looking for the free-ride, when there really isn’t one. You can build an honest and reputable business with MOBE, or on your own, but no matter which way you cut it, it will be a lot of hard work (and money) to get it going.
Also, another advantage of the MOBE system is that it is step-by-step. I’m not sure you are giving credit to the value of having a coach walk you step-by-step through everything. Sure, it’s all out there in books that might cost only $150 – $200 as you say. But to make that knowledge a living thing and truly real for someone is the real value.
I teach computer classes for a living. I’ve made thousands and thousands of dollars training people who could just go to Amazon and buy some books, or go to Lynda.com and watch some videos, and learn all that I know. In fact that is often how I myself learn. But the value I bring to my students – at up to $1000 or more per day sometimes – is that I make the material dance. I breathe life into it. I make it palatable to them and easy to digest.
This is what MOBE does. And yes, it costs a lot to make that happen. Those products he developed didn’t make themselves. It takes a huge effort to develop something, and Matt and MOBE have done a phenomenal job of making that happen.
Also the more expensive products are live events – you go and network with other up-and-comers, and already successful folks. In my experience just the contacts alone at such events are often worth the price of the events themselves. People truly are the most valuable assets – and Matt even states this in his training. He refuses to promote products he doesn’t believe in.
There will always be the hardened poverty-minded folk who want to do it themselves for $5. And they can. With grit, determination, and perseverance, any of us could figure all this stuff out given enough time, energy, and yes, money – money is necessary to make all this happen too.
I am going through the 21 steps. I’m being asked to invest the now $2497 (wish it was still $2000!). But I see this as investing in a system that will do NOTHING FOR ME unless I work hard at it, and make it a reality myself. Matt Lloyd isn’t going to make me successful. Neither are your materials either.
Truly, this should be a sober warning for people looking to win the lottery in internet marketing, or in life – there really is no free lunch.
All I’ve written will no doubt fall on deaf ears to those who see scam because of the high price. I would personally not want ANYONE to invest in MOBE, or any other system, if they had no intention of following through, or if they didn’t fully understand what they were getting into. It’s a potential revenue stream. You get to license their products and get paid huge commissions on the back end for life. You can pay that money and earn absolutely nothing if you do nothing. Or, you can take it and make it a profit stream.
I don’t see this as selling my soul on the backs of others’ Herculean efforts to come up with the licensing fees – this is not for everyone! I may one day regret that I am about to invest in the system, and I will come back here and post about it if that becomes true. But I fully expect that I will be successful, and help others to do the same with some very high quality training systems that admittedly are expensive. But, you get what you pay for and Matt is very up-front about this.
And – please don’t take this as an attack as it’s not meant as one – I do see that you are promoting your own sales system here as well. Talking about MOBE being a scam without actually having gone through it or given it an honest try seems a *little* bit like using the MOBE name to generate sales for yourself. Although what you are offering looks to be high quality.
Wishing you kindness, and thanks for taking your time to share. It was the comments of Kevin that convinced me to go ahead with MOBE because I’ve been looking into this for some time.
Best,
Mike
Dear Kevin, i amnew to the online buisness and would like for some advice from you! i want to join MOBE but after reading some contents of this site i am a bit worried is to what to do! i would really be in your dept if you helped me out with the process!! thank you please do reply i will be waiting for your reply!!
It all comes down to choice at the end of the day, thank you so much for your review Ian very helpful.
No problem at all, Freddy! I’m glad that I could help. Feel free to reach out if I can help with anything else down the road.