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Review of Empower Network from an “All-In” Member
Hey guys, Ian Pribyl here from NoMoreBSReviews.com. I wanted to talk to you today about a product called Empower Network, which I’ve been getting a lot of requests about and I am actually intimately familiar with. Because I was in Empower Network. There is also a reason that I am now out of the Empower Network; I will get to that later. And I was “all-in” meaning that I had spent over $5000 on their products because I was really committed to giving a very in-depth review. And the early stages of Empower Network as far as I saw were very promising.
Now I am going to talk to you in a little bit about why really I can’t recommend Empower Network and why I actually think it is pretty dangerous. But first I want to talk to you about what’s good in Empower Network.
Is there ANYTHING good about the Empower Network?
In Empower Network there are some very valuable internet marketing lessons, some very, very good ones right up there with some of the best that I have seen in this industry, but they are really not until you get into the $1000 15K Formula, is the product, and also their $3500 product which is called the Masters Retreat. As far as the $25 monthly recurring, there is almost no content of value in there.
What is in the “Inner Circle” $100/month product?
The $100, the Inner Circle membership they call it, is very unhelpful too. It is a whole bunch of conference calls that are 1 to 3 hours long, where a lot of the fat cats, the bigwigs, are talking about how they are making several hundred thousand dollars a year, several hundred thousand dollars a month. But there is not a whole lot of content in there as far as lessons and learning go.
What about the Costa Rica Intensive for $500?
The same thing with the $500 Costa Rica Intensive. There is just not a whole lot of valuable information in there and there is actually a lot of outdated information in there. So you are having to pay $1000 or $3500 to get into the really, really good content in Empower Network. And a lot of people never make it that far.
As far as the $25 and $125 products, there is no doubt in my mind that those are not worth purchasing by themselves. They work well coupled with the other stuff, some other better lessons that are really, really, really pricey. And I will tell why I still can’t recommend it based on that because there are a whole lot of lessons out there in internet marketing that are much, much, much more valuable.
But why pay $1,000-$3,500 for good internet marketing training?
Yes, there are all kinds of scams and con artists out there, and a lot of really crappy products, but there are some really good ones, and they are like $30 or $50 a month. You don’t have to spend over $5000 to get good information in this industry. And that’s why even though the information within Empower Network is good, that is one of the reasons I still won’t recommend it.
Why I got “blocked” from the Empower Network
Now I’ll get into the story of why I’m not in Empower Network anymore. NoMoreBSReviews.com, and I had a member that joined Empower Network because I was referring people to it for a while. Like I said it, was very promising in the beginning.
One guy had actually purchased and he said, “No, I need to get out; I need to get a refund.” And this was about a month in to me being in the Empower Network. And I said, “Oh, I forgot to review the refund process,” because that’s something I always review in my products as well just to make sure that people can actually get a refund if they need them.
So I got on the telephone with Support and I talked to them, and I said, “I need a refund” and I was all-in over $5000. I said I need a refund. I said something like my wife and I need the money and so the support representative said, “No, I am sorry, I can’t give you a refund on the $3500 product,” and I said, “Oh my gosh, my wife and I really need the money.” And she said, “I am sorry, I just can’t do it, you signed a piece of paper, so I can’t give you the money back.”
So I said, “Well, what if I were working with the Better Business Bureau, because I’ve seen you work very closely with people there.” She said, “You know, I still can’t.” And so I said,“Okay” and she said she would process the refund and all of the other stuff. And we hung up the phone. I thought that was the end of it. I thought I would just re-buy all of the products and be back in. I thought, “That went okay.”
I was kicked out of Empower Network for mentioning the BBB
About ten minutes later, I got a phone call back from that support representative, and she said she had spoken with her supervisor and because I mentioned in passing, very casually, the Better Business Bureau, because I mentioned the BBB that they were going to block my account and that I would never be able to re-sign for Empower Network.
So I asked, “What about all of my members?”, because I had referred dozens of people into the Empower Network at that point and I had a team that I was responsible for. And she said, “Well, they are just going to be passed up to your sponsor.” And I said, “So there is nothing I can do?” And she said,“No there is nothing you can do at this point.” And so I was actually forced out of the Empower Network, I was kicked out of the Empower Network for basically being too thorough in my review process, and because I very casually mentioned in passing the Better Business Bureau. And for me that was a huge red flag.
I could have gotten back in with a quick phone call
I know I could have called my sponsor because my sponsor and I had a really good relationship. I won’t mention his name, he was actually a really great person. But I wrote him an email, and told him what happened, and he said, “You should’ve contacted me, I could’ve gotten you back in.” And I knew that he could’ve gotten me back in.
But the point was: I was ostracized from a company for mentioning in passing the Better Business Bureau. And for me there is something really shady about that. And so that’s another reason why I can’t recommend the Empower Network; it’s because a company that ostracizes someone for very casually mentioning the Better Business Bureau is scary, in a way to me. There is something shady. It seems like something’s trying to be covered up.
The MAIN reason I can’t recommend EN
The third and main reason why I cannot recommend the Empower Network is because it ties back to what I said earlier: You have to spend over $5000 to get all of the lessons and be all-in. And you do, if you really want to make a lot of money in that network, you do have to own all of the products, because you don’t qualify for the commissions until you own all of their products. So you go all-in, you go in $5125, and you get some decent training.
The problem is, and I am not trying to be negative here, because I am actually a really positive person. I just want to be very realistic with you for a second because I think I owe that to the people I am speaking to in this review. The $5,125, most people will likely never see that back by joining Empower Network. I went to the conference here in Austin, Texas, where I live and there were tons of people that I spoke to that were all-in. They were all-in. They were so excited, they were pumped up. It was almost cult-like. It is like a cult-like following, following David Wood and David Sharpe.
These people weren’t making… I mean none of them even were making a few hundred dollars a month or a couple of hundred dollars a month. We are talking about people that have spent $5000, and they are failing. They are very failing very hard. There is some good information in there, but they are being told things like ‘blog about anything’, ‘blog about whatever you want to blog about’ and ‘you can make money in this industry’. And internet marketing doesn’t work that way.
You can’t just blog about “anything” like they instruct
When you build out a niche site, there are very specific things you have to write about to be successful. You can’t just write about anything. And that is the kind of direction that they were giving people. So these people have spent over $5000.And they are failing. And there is an extreme possibility, I am talking about somewhere between 90 to 95 percent chance, that anybody watching this review could be that person. Because it is very, very hard to make it in this industry. And 90% to 95% minimum of people that try to make it in this industry actually give up because it gets so hard.
Would you take $5,000+ from someone who didn’t have it to give?
The main reason why I can’t recommend Empower Network is because you are paying $5125 and sure, when someone else signs up for $5125 you are going to get paid $4625 which is a great payday. But the problem is there is a distinct possibility that you’ve gone into financial hardship, charged it on your credit card to pay that $5000, or maybe you spent a good chunk of your savings. And the people that you are recruiting are going to be in the exact same situation. They are going to be spending $5000 that they may not have.
A lot of people don’t have that kind of money sitting around. So they are charging it to their credit cards with 20 percent interest rates. And this is what it really comes down to: Most of the people that you sign up with Empower Network will fail. No doubt about it. There’s actually a lesson within Empower Network that talks about why it is okay to take those people’s money.
Within the Masters Retreat, it talks about why you shouldn’t feel bad about talking people’s money when they fail, because essentially they are just not working hard enough. That is not always the case. People try really really hard to make it.
So yes, you can make that $4,625 payday, but the thing is you are putting someone into a dire financial situation a lot of the time when you do that. You are putting people between a rock and a hard place financially and you are benefiting from it. And that is what the Empower Network is built on. And these guys that are being really successful and making several hundred thousand dollars a month – I am talking about Lawrence Tam, I am talking about Toby and Leyla Black, I am talking about Tony Rush. Those guys are here at the very very top that are making a killing. They are the ones on the phone calls, and the Inner Circle, and they are talking about how they are making so much money but they are not really teaching you a whole lot.
How are those guys making SO MUCH MONEY?!
A lot of those guys have huge MLM backgrounds. If you research them, if you look at the pictures of them on Google Images, there are pictures of them where they were making a killing with all of these other MLMs. We are talking about all of these other direct marketing companies. They were very successful there and they took their network, and they took the skills they learned there, and brought them into Empower Network and made a killing.
These are not average people making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month for the most part. Sure, there may be a few of them, but the majority of the people including David Wood and David Sharpe, at least David Wood I know for sure has a huge MLM background. And so if you are thinking about going into Empower Network, note that the $25 or $100 level you are not going to be getting a whole lot of content and a whole lot of lessons there, and also you are only going to qualify at the $25 and $100 commission levels. And you can’t make a killing in this industry, making those $25 or $125 commissions.
It’s structured to encourage “Go Big or Go Home”
So you would have to buy up to the bigger products, and then when you buy into those products and you are getting other people to buy into those products, there is this despair like I need to get one person to sign up so that I can recover my money. It is a snowball. You are struggling to get one person, so you can recover your money, but then it is a cycle. Then they are in trouble. They are in financial hardship. And they are struggling to get at least one person to pay for the $5125 plus over that they have already spent. And almost everybody within the Empower Network – yes, almost everybody has made one $25 or one $100 commission.
Would you give $5,125+ for $25 or $125?
They did this thing at the convention where they were like: If you’ve made a commission in Empower Network stand up, and they worked their way down to all these levels. But the thing is if you’ve made $25 or $100 and you spent $5125 with $145 of it recurring every single month, you are probably not a very happy person. I wouldn’t exactly call that a success story and then act like it is some big huge thing. The fact of the matter is most people, the vast majority of people that join Empower Network will never see that $5125 again, if they go all-in.
You’re called a “Wussy” if you don’t go “All-In”
There is a culture there, they call you a wussy, if you don’t go all-in. There is a culture there that makes you feel like you need to go all-in, like you will make it if you go all-in. And the fact of the matter is, it is just really, really dangerous. There is not a lot of content in the early stages. Once you do get into the later stages, and you’ve bought all that content. You could get equally valuable lessons in internet marketing for $50 a month. And you wouldn’t have to worry about losing $5125.
So the vast majority of people in this industry struggle and a lot of them never make it. So you can spend $50 a month and never make it, or you can spend $5125; it is a high risk. I’m not saying you are never going to make it in internet marketing. Please don’t take it that way. I am just saying that a lot of people don’t and a lot of people in the Empower Network never make their money back. And that’s why I cannot recommend the Empower Network.
Free resources are available to you here
Now if you are interested in some free internet marketing resources that point you in the right direction, so you don’t have to risk anything, you are not risking any money, I have a lot of them on my blog, I give a lot of very very valuable lessons, I have a free e-book that I wrote myself, that is very very helpful to get you pointed in the right direction and started down the right path in internet marketing. So you don’t have to go spend $5000 in Empower Network and risk that kind of money. I give you enough valuable free resources, so you know whether or not this industry is a good fit for you early on before you waste any money.
Closing thoughts about the Empower Network
So that’s my review of Empower Network. I hope you found it helpful. I hope you found it insightful. Again, please don’t take this negative. I do think absolutely everyone can make it in internet marketing. It just takes a lot of work, and a lot of effort. And if you are committed to putting in those hours and a lot of that effort, you can absolutely make it. Don’t feel like you can’t. Just make sure that you know going into it, this is going to be a lot of work. And that is why a lot of people end up giving up. It’s because they’re not ready for all that work. But if you are ready for it, you can absolutely make it in this industry. You just need to be pointed in the right direction.
So check out my blog NoMoreBSReviews.com for those free resources. I am sorry for running almost 15 minutes, I just had a lot to say about Empower Network. It works that way, I’ve had so many experiences with them I just had a lot to say. So I hope you all found this helpful. I hope you stay safe out there on the internet. And until next time, again my name is Ian Pribyl, from NoMoreBSReviews.com. Take care and I will talk to you guys later. Bye bye.
If you have any questions or comments about this review, feel free to send me an email using my contact page, email me, or comment on this post! I do the absolute best I can to be a free resource for new affiliate marketers that are trying to change their lives and avoid getting scammed in this dog-eat-dog industry!
Summary: A 100% Honest, no-holds-barred review of Empower Network from a former “all-in” member.
Description: I was in Empower Network, I was “all-in”, and I was making money. So why did I leave? This review will explain why.
Rating: 1 out of 5.
What are these products that I keep hearing about ? No one is ever specific on what they are or could be. Spray bottles , ties , litter boxes . What? Really liked your video its good to see your trying to help people we need more of that.
Excellent EN Review Ian:
I joined EN in February.2013 and haven’t made or earned any commissions to date. When I did join, wasn’t aware that one needed highspeed. At the time I was still hooked up to dialup and was difficult to view any training videos that were available. I do enjoy blogging and was doing that consistently daily with a dialup and that became difficult to do also. Even though I had some roadblocks, I continued to pay the monthly for the blogging platform and another monthly for the affiliate fee to earn commissions. I am still a member, because I think EN can work.
EN has changed their compensation from 100% to 70%/30% on all products which I wasn’t to happy about. Fortunately I didn’t get all in as they were all hyping about which would include the EN Founder Co Founder and the high earners (leaders). I did order the 15K for $1,000, again with all the hype of being the greatest training.
Also there is always hype about attending their events that by attending one will change your life forever. You’ll be able to connect with the leaders and learn strategies to start earn a full time income.
It amazes me that you keep hearing all these stories that so and so started from scratch, didn’t know anything about marketing and earning thousands of dollars every month, but they never share how they are doing it. The EN Founder claims that all he does is blog and earns thousands of dollars. I’m not sure if all these high earners are all full of it.
I have good content on my blog with over 500 articles. Problem, finding targeted traffic to my affiliate training niche. Have done paid advertising, post to twitter daily, post to my facebook page.
Have invested some money and a lot of time, so I just don’t want to give up and take my losses and move on.
Another problem with EN, all their digital products are online which saves EN with quite a bit of money for shipping, etc. Main problem that one doesn’t realize, if you spend thousands of dollars for their online digital products and you decide to bail out, you won’t be able to excess these products anymore which is totally wrong. There should be a new law for all companies pertaining to their refund policy. Yes, EN is transparent regarding a no refund policy. The new law should require all companies to have a minimum 30 day refund if the customer is not satisfied, no questions asked.
Like with any opportunity, one needs to put the effort, be patient and do your due diligence could save you a lot of money and wasted time and yes, don’t be looking for a quick buck in a short period of time like a lot of these programs claim. It takes work, investing for education, expenses for marketing.
Question To Ian: How long were you an affiliate for EN before being banned, because you mentioned the BBB in passing. Were you in long enough to start earning some kind of income and what were you doing to start earning commissions.
Changes to EN: David Sharpe left EN due to medical reasons and seems to be coming back this year. New Blogging Platform (kalatu) which is WP that they originally started with and then changed to their own independent platform which was good, but they felt that WP was better.
I could post all kinds of negative crap about EN, because I’m not earning any commission. I now have highspeed, I now can view videos and am ready to Rock ‘N” Roll with EN before bailing out and taking my losses with me.
In closing: Never Give Up On Your Dreams
Hey Jim! Thanks for the detailed experiences and taking the time to comment. To answer your question, yes – I was making money and on track to make a lot more. I was with EN for just over a month. When they banned me, my sponsor was very well known and high enough to the top that he told me he could have “fixed” it if I had wanted him to. Problem was, by that point, I was very conflicted morally seeing how badly all of my referrals were struggling and basically throwing money at me hoping to fix it, but no amount of money they spent within EN was going to make them successful. I was going to be making incredible money at the great financial expense of others. Ethically, I felt it was a line that I just couldn’t cross.
Thank you so much for responding Ian.
Of course! I love to interact with and discuss matters like this with my visitors.
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Hey Kellen! I’m really glad you found it helpful. Have you checked out the free resources on this site yet? In the top navigation under the “Free Stuff” section there’s a lot of helpful information on how to get started in internet marketing, which leveraged properly can be a great source of leads.
In my past I’ve been a top MLMer. I’ve also been a salesman. I always liked the “aussie” type of pay plan because it pays big commissions. I joined EN at the start….and kept looking for a product…..kept looking for a product……kept looking for a product.
Finally threw in the towel. It is a ponzi. The product is “send more money”.
I don’t promote what I wouldn’t sell to my mother. I wouldn’t GIVE empower to my mother.
look everybody, your chances of making it in business, any business, are extremely low. That’s reality.
So do something that has a real product.
I could have been a top dog in empower. Heck, I had a list of 12,000 leaders from my last MLM venture. But I’d have to wear a mask and hide my head.
Ian, not to be hard, but what the heck? How did you ever figure EN had any value?
You’re not being hard at all! I think the main reason I bought into the product initially was the “experience” and sense of community from the EN event here in Austin. It just so happened to be coming to my hometown the week I was reviewing the product so I figured, “What the heck.” As an experienced MLMer I’d imagine you’ve been to many events like this, and Empower Network does an incredible job selling you their vision and presenting the product as more than it is at their events.
Once I got into it though and started reviewing the training/material and attending the calls, conferences, etc… I realized it was all smoke and mirrors and quickly worked with my handful of referrals to get them out and safe again. So I guess that about sums it up – I hope that answers your question!
Ian
You’re the best. I really appreciate what you have said. I know that they are honest and well meaning. You are a gentleman. I was also in and I got out real fast.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for taking the top to leave such a kind message, Helen. I really appreciate it and I’m glad I was able to help. If I can help with anything else as you continue along, don’t hesitate to reach out.
Ian,
Thank you so much for your great reviews not only on EN but all the rest. I’m sure a lot of people especially the newbies will learn a lot from them. As for me, now I know: before I’d jump into something I have to check for your reviews first for guidance.
More power brother!!!
Diosdado
No problem at all. Diosdado! I’m very happy that I’m in a position to help others like you with honest reviews. Thanks for reading and commenting, and let me know if I can help with anything else down the road!
WOW! That was a close Call, I have become a EN Member for 2 weeks & Yes I think it’s just a money pit, I even put out a Banner ads on craigslist & Backpage etc.. even they rejected EN.
What does that say! I have just canceled my entire membership & gone back to basics.
Great call Matthew! I’m glad that I could help – if I can help with anything else don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks for reading and commenting!
I knew it. Have you heard of a company called MLSP (My Lead System Pro)?
Can you do a review on it?
Hey Peter! Thanks for writing, I’m glad you found the review to be helpful. I haven’t reviewed MLSP personally (although it’s on my radar), but my understanding from followers that have contacted me in the past that have purchased it is that they had very negative experiences. Not a single person that has purchased MLSP that has reached out has been please or at all impressed. I hope that helps at least a little bit! Thanks for reading/watching and commenting!
THANK YOU for that Empower Network I new there was something
i was going to join at the $25.00 and work my way up
yes i did see the higher one
but no told me its buy the month yes $25.00 but not the $3.00.000 or $5.00.000 is it buy the month ?
am very happy i seen this
that do you think about the PROSPERITY TEEM ?
I did go to your YouTube on Empower Network but it block
I have a lot to say but i like to thank you and everyone on hear
I have not gotten in to anything for years now my wife has seen me work so hard on hear but i did not make much and spend a lot of money some but not a lot
thank again From Jim
I have been a member of EN for 1.5 yrs and you are absolutely correct that 90% of the members do not make any money. The only reason I stayed with EN for so long was that I was brainwashed by the 100% commissions and the constant verbage about staying focused and taking action. I was blaming myself for not seeing the results, despite working 20 hrs per week on EN. My one and only member– I advised him not to purchase and of the other products until he got a few recruits. It was hard for me to coach him because I had no success with EN.
I did not buy the top tier product for 3500– thank god.
I attended my first EN event in Oct 2013 only because it was near my home. I felt like I was in a cult of 1500 people brainwashed into thinking they too could make 5K or more per month. The co-owner, David Sharpe even had a so called homeless woman stand up and tell her story and than he proceeded to get her a room at the hotel, since she was sleeping in her car. I agree the Wussy concept of going All-In is sad. My intuition says that the 50 marketing experts who got together before the EN launch knew they were going to make a killing off all of us newbies as we were attracted to the 100% commissions, training, sales funnels, etc.. They new many newbies would drop out after 3 months– bo big deal at least we made 5K off of that person. It was hard for me to break away from EN but I knew I had too because I was losing hundreds of dollars each month on top of purchasing all their event recordings. I think it is wrong to tell people they can make 3K in one week, ironically most of my unsubscribes from my email list, came from Dave Wood’s messages not mine because people are turned off by hype and broken promises– sounds familiar– I won’t go there. I could go on and on about EN because I was a member for a pretty long time.
Thanks Ian for being the great person you are by being truthful and honest in your reviews that’s why I have been following you for almost 2 years. Good luck with WA– may consider that opp.
No problem Carolyn! Thank you for sharing your experiences for the community here as well. If you have questions about anything down the road or need help with anything in IM/AM, don’t hesitate to reach out!
I joined EN and was really ripped off big time, the system took 2 payments from me, I contacted my sponsor and got a answering machine, then I contacted support regards this,
NO Answers, No refunds, just the silent treatment. Their Servers then crashed-how conveinent-they crashed, and now they say they do not have a record of any memberships-ha-such jerks. I know of for 2 times for sure that their servers crashed late 2011, and I think a 3rd too and my membership was cancelled, I emailed them because money was being taken out of my bank account and their servers were down, I had to email them my sign up email receipt or they were not going to not let me back in so I could study the calls ha-there were none and I had to pay a membership fee!. Oh, They say just blog about anything and I did, My first blog got 19 fake Emails, When I emailed these emails from my email account, I got that the email was no longer in service, I really think this is the biggest money grabbing scam out there. They really suck to the extreme, I also had to pay ewallet money every month so I was spending about $145 amonth and never did get a sign up and here is something they tell you to” just blog”, I did that- did not work and Then David wood does a Call– says “You have to sign up for this to learn more so you can seo your blogs to get traffic and sign ups”, I am horrified by this program to the extreme, It was started by those 2 masterminds poor folks-one was homeless and one was a over worked construction worker and oh i am poor too, and still am disgusted by the upsells they have. They are the biggest con artists on the internet. When they started EN in very early summer 2011, They only let their top mlsp friends (called them founding members later when it went viral) in and while this was going on their freinds-lawrence tam, tracy walker, nicole cooper, toby and layla black, sophia and aaron rashkin, nick bramble, rob fore, and those others from mlsp-that is where they all met, were promoting
En to the hilt to get members galore in early summer of 2011 and it did not go official-viral til nov 2011 before people like me heard and could sign up after their top mlsp freinds promoted the heck out of it-they say for 16 hours a day, they were doing this and oh now they make $30K? a month, where are the screenshots? and they did get sign ups because they learned how to market in mlsp- oh and now they promote EN because they pay more–they are all fakes–In the early winter of 2012, JAn to March- there were hardly any conf calls and I was promised 1 conf call aweek and there were none-Tell you why- These people were promoting-body by Vi for a big Bonus and a Free BMW -get the info on their blogs and go back to check it out-toby and layla got a bmw from body by VI, David and Daved must of been promoting it too, they are sick phychos–what about the promised teaching i was suppose to get 1 a week and they say newbies can do it, we have wkly conf calls and we teach you everything-ha – what a lie, they did not ever give me a phone number,
-before they were really viral and a few of them even put mlsp down saying-“we give you 100% commissions, mlsp does not”, oh sick, if it was not for mlsp, these guys would not even know how to blog, I thought about joining mlsp, I had a few people email me and they all promote EN, Oh gee, I am seeking advice on mlsp and they are members of mlsp and then they promote EN, I have even had people tell me in their emails or on the phone-I just promote this only=HA-They get my email and then I get EN’s Promotional junk.
I fail to believe their servers crashed, and I have nothing positive to say about a bunch of fakes that take peoples money and run, I do not like signing up for anything now and my money is mine not theirs, they are such big fakes like the rest of the IM bunches out there.
Wow LG, thank you so much for taking the time to write up this detailed comment! Stuff like this really contributes to the community and helps others that are considering the product. I’m really sorry you had such poor experiences with Empower Network and you’ve hit the nail right on the head with a lot of your remarks. Have you considered filing with the BBB or contacting your bank in a further attempt to try and get a refund?
Ian –
Thanks for your honest review. I’ve decided to give WA a go and will click through your affiliate link when I do so. It’s refreshing to find soneone who values and promotes honesty in this industry. Also, it’s a pleasure to read/watch someone who is articulate and well written. It seems that many marketers are at a loss to form one coherent paragraph. For example, the main Empower Network sales page is full of grammar/syntax errors.
You might want to polish the part of this review where you memtion the BBB though. It’s a bit confusing as the Empower rep says that she still cannot issue a refund (even after you mention the BBB) and then she suddenly does.
Thanks again and have a great day!
James
Thanks James! The Empower Network rep initially told me that she could not issue a refund, and then called me back a few minutes later after we hung up and she had spoken with her supervisor. He told her that, since I mentioned the BBB, she should call me back, issue a full refund on all of the products, and block me from membership permanently because I was a liability. I apologize if that section was a bit confusing, but if I can clarify anything else feel free to let me know!
Were you able to get a refund? I’d call your credit card company or bank and show them the sales letter for the site. That will likely get you an immediate refund, regardless of any “paper you signed.” I’m fairly certain the paper you signed didn’t say that they could ban your account and keep your money. Additionally, they still have an obligation to deliver on the promises of the product they sold you. I hope you get your money back from these scumbags.
Hey Chris, thanks for commenting! Oh yeah, they processed a refund when they kicked me out – otherwise I would have found it very difficult to remain fairly calm and balanced in this review. But you’re absolutely right, I’m sure my bank would have stepped in and helped out if they had refused my refund.
Definitely glad to hear it. Some people will likely not be so lucky with low level legal threats from the Empower camp or just being so ashamed of being taken by such a shoddy scam.
vick strizheus, one of the top promoters of EN just got out of probation last year due to the fact that he ran an insurance con.The prosecutors straight out labeled him a ‘con-artist’.
Dave Sharpe, changes his sales background constantly. He claimed to have been in a construction job and struggling financially, but than turned around and said he was the top promoter of any direct-selling he got involved in. He also was charged with a felony DUI charge, which could be explained away by his unnamed ‘drug problem’, but shows his character since he did not mention it in his sales video, or anywhere for that matter.
Now the entire Empower network office seems to be stationed at Dave Sharpe’s house, so the costa rica dream life could all be fake.
Only 37% of sales in empower network comes from actual customers, which(surprise) meets the requirements not for a MLM program but a pyramid scheme.
Now you are turning around trying to get people to join your list so you can upsell them at some point and make more money with ‘unbiased’ reviews.
I dont trust any of you, and you all peddle the same snake oil that most of you aren’t living.
Thanks for the comment, Jason. I can understand your decision to not trust me, and I completely respect it. Honestly, if we swapped positions I would be very skeptical of you too. I reviewed Empower Network very negatively which is one of the absolute highest paying programs in this industry (which is why so many people give it “positive” reviews). It would be much more profitable for me to review it positively as it would be with many programs I buy and review, so I hope that at least goes a little ways to show skeptics like yourself (which I completely respect because I’m one too) that I’m not running this site to make as much money as possible. When you review as many products as I have, you’re bound to find one or two that aren’t horrible and that’s why there are positive reviews. I have an email list to give free lessons and resources and keep people informed if I find anything of significance in this industry.
Anyways, I don’t want to get long-winded. I appreciate and respect your skepticism, and wish you the best of luck if you decide to pursue affiliate marketing, Jason. If you have any questions along the way, don’t hesitate to reach out. I’d be happy to help any way that I can.
Hi Ian,
Thank you very much for the info and experience with Empower Network. I almost bought in. You saved my money and time.
What about “Wealthy Affiliate”? Am I have to spend a lot of time before making money??
Please advice me the fastest and easiest way(s) to make money online.
Thank you.
Best Regards
Kong Tak Huat
Hello Kong, yes – any successful business in affiliate or internet marketing takes several weeks if not a few months at the minimum to build out. It becomes more passive in time for most niches, but in the beginning it is a lot of time, work, and effort. I hope that helps!
Hey Ian, could you tell me some free traffic sources that i can direct into my website?
do advertisement marketing makes better than article marketing?
Hi Ian:
Really awesome review and really commend your website – I have read through a lot of your articles and believe there’s a lot of value and content here so will be visiting often. I actually joined EN under a different team, Paul Barroso – you may or may not have heard of him but he’s one of the leaders after struggling for so many years making 60K per mth from zero in less than 6 mths. Now it’s true , like you say, internet marketing isn’t for everyone, it does take a lot of hard work, commitment and dedication but firmly believe, any that has the proper mindset and sponsor will succeed tremendously. I really think the EN business depends on which team you’re on (there are so many) and who your direct sponsor is? I literally host internet training session in my home to get people started and teach internet basics as well as give workshops and teach people how to use the internet on their jobs – I get a lot of fufillment in that. I’ve been around the internet for years and can say the content within Empower is really up there and i’m not just saying this.
I love to self-improve so subscribe to tons of internet newsletters, internet gurus – there’s one big guru (not on Empower) – and i’m paying literally $200 per mth just to listen to what he’s saying. That said, I’m learning more hands on applicable tools on EN daily. Plus the mentorship i’m getting from my sponsor is bar non – I would gladly pay $5000 just to learn all he can to teach me exactly what he did to get me there – because I know thru those skills I can apply those internet marketing skills not only in Empower but any business I start.
I have literally newbies on my team that are making money – why? Because I’m there for my team, accessible and really want them to succeed. I’ve gotten so much value out of the content already, I would have gladly paid that much just to get all that content in one place and trust me, I’ve spent close to $10K in educating myself.
That said, you have a great point, if you’re in Empower and don’t have the right team or the right sponsor, it will be a huge struggle and a uphill battle for sure. What’s great about Empower is that it’s really your own company within a company. It’s your own business – it allows you to build your business however way you want – and like most business 80% fail..if anyone thinks they can start a business for $25 without and blood,sweat and tears, you need to “grow up” and take the sunshine out of your glasses.
But like you said, if you’re willing to roll up your sleaves work hard – you can potentially be at the very top of internet marketing skillbase 1-2% as well as improving yourself.
For those considering EN – go in eyes wide open – you really need to work hard to succeed. And unfortunately a few bad apples out of 100K+ affiliates shouldn’t be a reflection of the company.
Personally, my goal is to help the newbie marketer – one that’s new, start at the $25 level – as they see results and are completely comfortable financially, then move to the next level. I do agree, you need to be wise and financially responsible and know yourself. But I want to ensure that person is mentally, and skillfully there..if I see a newbie at the $25, I can ask him a few questions and quickly determine whether he’s done anywork or really put in the time – if they consider upgrading I would certainly advise it only if they will put in the work, time, and have the commitment.
It’s a bit of a irony – those that are financially unfit think spending $5k may be a sort of pancea and money will magically reappear. But it’s those very same people that should not be buying the $5k unless they are mentally ready and willing to put in the time and effort to make this work for them.
I’m in EN / Bim as all in member and so far my experience has been fantastic due to the reasons cited above. I will be less likely going around in circles banging my head against the wall on the internet seeing what works and what doesn’t because there are people using these very same internet marketing skills to make a lot of money.
You can write your own ticket in EN as well but if you dn’t have the right mentor, community, team – then it will be that much more difficult to succeed.
One final point, on every call, there is a income disclaimer which specifically states success requires hard work, dedication and commitment – I see a lot of people who “T R Y” – I know people who go into this business thinking – how can I leave when if I want to? Do you ever start a business thinking on ways to get out if it potentially fails? That’s the wrong mindset..
Thank you for your reading my long winded advice
Thank you for this review but I thought the one you talk about was Empire Network….there is an Empower Network also and they lied about the fee and lifetime membership, they called me to talk aboout getting deeper in and I told them it was like a scam the way they talk up the products and making money in 24 hours??? lol Well anyways, everytime you try to click outta their video, the price foes down, finally to $9.95……even that is hard to get back and they lock you out when they say its personally guaranteed…..right…thanks for letting me vent..I am poor, I was really listening to this man…I almost believed him, if I had jumped into it, I’d been in deep right now…think about it before they jump is what a person needs to do, not go ahead and buy it thinking they will tak it down, cuz they say that a lot, because it’s always there 2 weeks, 3 weeks away….
Thanks for leaving a comment, Brenda! And you’re right – almost any time someone says “This offer won’t be here tomorrow” or “We only have 5 seats left” you’re probably getting ready to sign up for something that is very shady. That’s not always going to be the case I’m sure, but it is at least 95% of the time in my experience. Stay strong, and let me know if I can ever help with anything!
Thank you so much and I will….do you have a review on Empire Network?? its the one they ditched m e on…because I was skeptical…lol Just wondering I know the one your speaking about, tell people as soon as they sign up for work at home jobs they get all kinds of these emails….thanks again Brenda
Hello will you please email me some info so i can get traffic to my businesses that i do please thank you!
Hey Tina, I shot you an email with a couple of free resources for you to checkout. I hope that helps!
Hey can I get them too ? thank you for you effort.
I was on edge to subscribe to this EN but I didn’t thank God.
Glad that I could help, Sam! Actually all of my free resources are now listed under the “free stuff” section at the top of this screen – let me know if you have any questions.
Ian, great review. Being a former EN member, I think it’s safe to say you simply made the wrong statement to the wrong person who is known for “moving fast and breaking things” rather than having a professional presence and finding a workable solution for you. That scary stuff isn’t so much that they are hiding things, as much as I think they can simply be very arrogant and unprofessional. It also stands to reason that once you were all in, you became expendable… they simply moved you out and took your earnings for themselves. You deserve an award for maintaining your flawless professionalism during this review.
Thank you very much for your insight and perspective Kent. You might very well be correct!